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Thursday, January 30, 2003


What's at stake in the theory debate? Status, power, position on the academic ladder. While I don't have an exact conclusion to all this theory talk, I do see being able to "talk the talk" or "engaging in theory talk" will "bring status"... and by giving it this type of power ("Accordingly, theory is rhetorical, because it involves persuasion, and also political, because it involves power.") I do feel it ends up "trivializ[ing] theory". These outside forces make "theory less significant, less useful, than it should be". What theory talk should be used for, in my opinion, is "envision[ing] the writing classroom as a hermeneutical circle where teachers' theoretical reflections lead to more critically aware practice, which leads to a more critical analysis of theory,[....] which leads to greater self-reflection from teachers..". {All quotes from Beth Daniell's essay} For myself, I know that by looking at the camps and thinking about the different theories, it made me reflect on what I do and why. I am becoming expressivistic about my own thoughts on teaching. Why does my theory work for me? It allows me to express myself through my teaching methods, goals.. etc. Is it feasible to combine approaches? I think the only way to teach is to combine these camps a little. Teachers shouldn't confine themselves. I will comment more on my thoughts/others as I get through the other writings. I had to brainstorm right now though.


Wednesday, January 29, 2003


As I read the theories of the different camps, I find myself thinking hey that sounds good to just many diverging points and claims. I feel like a beach ball being smacked back and forth. Maybe I’m just easily manipulated, but I don’t think that’s entirely true. The reason the differing theories change my mind at any given moment is because they do make good points. I don’t think, however, that one theory completely explains or provides an explanation on how writers write or should be taught to write. My philosophy of teaching is more of a piecing together of the good ideas with what works for me and my students. I have to keep in mind that I am a new teacher (I’ve only been teaching for three or four years), and I expect myself to change and grow as I learn new information and practice different approaches.

I don’t know how any teacher could say they only utilize the cognitive theory in the classroom, that the cognitive theory dictates their approach to teaching. The cognitive theory is a neat idea, but I don’t see the practical approaches; if there are a few practical approaches, I don’t see how it could entirely form one’s teaching pedagogy.

The Expressivists sound great in the essays, but I think they are missing large portions. First of all, I think it is useful to bring in good models of writing. I would be nervous teaching with only student essays as the readings. Sometimes, as someone in the class pointed out (Kim?), I like to point out the logical fallacies or poor uses of style in an essay. This is a lot easier to do when the author is neither in the classroom nor confined in the position of less power.

The Social Epistemic theories are a useful addition to the Expressivists because they add material from the political, outside world. Maxine Hairston made great points about teachers using their classroom as a platform for their political goals, but I think she went too far. To say that anything political should not be brought into the classroom as an outside source is very limiting. I try to introduce topics that are interesting to the students, that they are excited and enthusiastic about. We look at models of good (and sometimes bad) writings, and we use new ideas to create and explore what they want to on a similar subject. I’d like to think that I give them room to explore while comfortably housing them with padded parameters.


I’m still in the process of contemplating Maxine Hairston’s ideas regarding “new possibilities for freshman courses.” Hairston’s claim is “that we can create a culturally inclusive curriculum in our writing classes by focusing on the experiences of our students” (672). I believe Hairston is correct in maintaining that there is an “increase in diversity” in student populations. It seems logical that an inclusive curriculum would focus on students’ experiences. One teaching in this environment could easily adopt the Expressivist philosophy, since personal experience revolves around the individual. Students would learn about themselves and their writing through their writing itself, and also about the wide variety of cultures and backgrounds represented by others in the class.

These are just some of my initial thoughts about Hairston. Establishing a “culturally inclusive curriculum” would be an immensely difficult task, assuming that not everyone has the same idea as to what a “culturally inclusive curriculum” is. Likewise, since I do not currently teach, I assume I underestimate the complexity of such a task.

In regards to my own writing, I have more experience as an academic, rather than a creative writer. As I write, I set goals for myself and continually change them. I place more emphasis on the writing process (planning, translating, reviewing) than I do on focusing on myself. If I had to choose one camp over the other, I would consider myself a Cognitivist. However, as I engage in creative writing, I tend to gravitate towards Expressivist ideas. Instead of concentrating on process, I focus on myself. Thus, I adhere to elements from both camps.

It’s been a long, long day!


The more that I think about the theories we have been discussing, the more they seem to blend into each other. We are all trying to produce good writers (I make it sound like they are inanimate objects with no will of their own!). So, is the question what constitutes good writing or what techniques do we use to get the students there?

In the school of education (for my undergrad), we really concentrated on process, and many of these ideals have stuck with me. Breaking writing down into processes makes it more manageable for many students who may otherwise be intimidated. Realizing that they don’t have to (can’t?) turn out a perfect paper in the first try is really important. But does this dumb down writing or make it impersonal? I think that this is where the other “camps” come into my philosophy of teaching.

I want students to feel passionate about what they write – to write about things that are important to them. They should feel control over their writing and take pride in the finished product. In this way, I feel that expressive approaches are most valuable. I don’t necessarily feel that I should have to teach my students to think critically, but hopefully the exchanges of ideas in the classroom discussion and in the readings will inspire that thoughtful process in them. And almost without doubt, social issues will come up. Social issues may be the students’ interests and may be something that they feel very passionate about. In those cases, I am in favor of the students writing about them. However, I don’t want to force my students to write about social issues that they have no interest or passion for. So, I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t feel as strongly about the Social Epistemic approaches, but I can’t ignore them either.
So, if someone knows the answers, let me know!


One comment I have... Aren't the HIGH SCHOOLS SUPPOSE to be the places where the grammar nazis live? I taught A LOT of grammar and sentence structure and blahblahblah (<--what I thought of teaching it 5 days a week, ugh) to my juniors and seniors (not that they learned it all)... SO, essentially, I see "our" job to be to encourage them to write ASSUMING they have had that background. And, hey, I KNOW they all haven't BUT- THIS IS COLLEGE! And here's another "mean" comment: Isn't the first year of college suppose to WEED out the students that shouldn't be here in the first place?

p.s. I am having a crabby/crappy day. Forgive the un-expressivisticness.


So, Sybil and I were just talking a little bit about Berlin and it struck me that what Berlin says students should get out of composition training is what many may think is more appropriate coming from parents and other family members, religious or spiritual advisors, or philosophers. Wistfully I say that Berlin's goals may be a trifle lofty for teachers to transmit.


By the way, Kevin, your little plan worked...I'm thinking through theory. I read the first sentence of Hairston's essay, "In 1985, when I was chair of CCCC,..." (659) and I snorted. "Well, not hard to find any hierarchical contamination here..."


Well, my teaching philosophy (if I can call it a philosophy at this point) is difficult for even me to explain because I still consider myself a ROOKIE. Last semester was mainly about following a syllabus that was set out for me and hoping to make it interesting and exciting for my students and myself. This semester, having had the opportunity to come up with my own readings, assignments, etc., I am embarking on the path towards some sort of philosophy. I have a hard time, as have all the other bloggers thus far, putting myself expressely into one camp. While I agree with many aspects of the expressivist camp, I do NOT consider it as being my TEACHING philosophy. I feel it is doing a severe injustice to the students to not stress the importance of grammar and mechanics at an early stage in the writing developmental process. While I concede that it is more important to have a solid grasp on the subject matter and a clear focus, it is impossible to do such things without an even minimal level of fundamental grammar/mechanic instruction.

I have also tried to teach a bit of accountability in my classes. I think many freshman have not been held accountable for their lack of preparation/dedication to this point. Maybe it is not my job to make them more mature, but I try to help them in the right direction for the future.
Katey mentioned making the assignments manageable to the students and applicable to the student's lives. I feel this is also extremely important--without this vital element, how can one be expected to write about something that has absolutely no meaning to his or her life? The topics in English 120 are highly linked to the social epistemic camp. We are teaching our students that--to steal the title of one of the textbooks being used this semester--Everything is an Argument. We focus on the issues in society today, things like Immigration, Military Intervention, Gender Roles, etc. These are, in effect, issues of relevance to the students, and are therefore more interesting to them.

I guess what I am trying to say is, I want my students to enjoy writing and enjoy learning how to write. If they don't enjoy what they are doing, they will be mediocre at best in the efforts and final results of their writing.

So... what camp is that?


Hmmm...teaching philosophy. I thought I was on track and doing all right until I read Berlin's "Contemporary Composition" and realized that I'm not preparing them for life as well as I should be. "In teaching writing, we are not simply offering training in a useful technical skill...we are teaching a way of experiencing the world, a way of ordering and making sense of it" (246). Perhaps I really do cozy up to the Social Epistemic camp, because since I've been doing this (you know, the world-wise comp teacher of two years) I've kind of felt like the best thing I could do for my students wasn't teaching them MLA format (sorry Katey, I know that's gotta hurt) but to work on getting them to leave my class with a good taste in their mouth about the college experience, and about writing in particular. Truthfully, at the risk of sounding defeatist, I don't believe that I really teach my students much about writing. You can work with people for a semester or two and get them "trained" or accustomed to write like you suggest (ne, demand) but students are used to having different teachers for different subjects, so they're used to morphing to adapt to the demands of each teacher. Again, the SE thing (not South Engineering)--there's a hierarchy for each class and students, as well as teachers, will find it in each setting and adjust accordingly.


I like to make my students think about real life problems--even if it's under the guise of an assignment. For most of them, their future writing will not entail research papers, but getting trained for writing them can help a LOT with proposals, sales pitches, resumes--I don't think students realize just how much what they'll be doing in their future IS research papers. Again, even before I read about it I had Social Epistemic leanings.
Here's to the downtrodden and marginalized!


I am in a frenzy right now because I get really confused when I have to mail one thing, blog, another, and then read actual text. These are the days when I think I am too dumb to be in grad school. But (as Dr.O’C would say) I digress.

Let me begin by talking a little bit about my teaching style and philosophy. I try very hard to make sure that my lectures and assignments are both manageable and applicable to my students lives. A lot of times I wonder if this is, in a way, dumbing things down. However, I feel that if I am speaking their language and about issues that pertain to them, they will be more actively involved. I am not sure that English 110 and 120 should be a competition in the most creative ways to confuse students. Abstract theories and terms are more manageable when applied to situations that can be experienced in the dorms or at food service. Does that make any sense? I think that the course I teach are intended to help students discover how they write “the best” rather than finding the best ways to “beat” them. So, in a nutshell, I guess my philosophy of teaching is probably one of relating and support. I sound like a mother...

I’ll continue. My class this semester is based on the critical analysis of society and the self. Having said that, I think the premise of my course lies solidly in the social epistemic camp of composition. I am trying to get my students to see that everything in their worlds has meaning and that meaning can be used to create their own reality (or their dream reality by means of creating their own Utopia). However, when we have discussions and when I assign narratives, I want my students to take a more expressivist approach. I want them to decide how they feel about issues and themselves and then try to analyze society afterward. (I am beginning to confuse myself; maybe this is why I get so many blank stares throughout the day.).

I am not sure that I can sum this up. I have a problem applying theory to my classroom because I don’t think that all of what I do and my students do fits into one camp specifically. I think it is a combination of many camps and I have a hard time separating them.


I agree with Nancy in that I, too, am hesitant to ally myself with any one camp based on the readings we have done so far. My interactions with students vary greatly. I have the privelege of working with students at many stages in their writing process. I see my job as a challenge of interpreting the assignment they have been given, the situation for which it is being written, and the writing they have done when they come in. These elements act as clues of how the conference should proceed.


Clues aside, however, I feel comfortable backing the Expressivist camp in several theory elements. Berlin writes, "In expressionist rhetoric, this gift is democratized, writing becoming an art of which all are capable" (687). To this I add an emphatic yes! One of my main goals at the CFW is to give my students confindence in their own abilities. If students can begin to feel that their own words are relevent and powerful, the other theory camps can begin to shape their writing process. If students doubt their own words, no amount of outside research will help them see themselves as "writers."

I am intrigued by the elements of Social-Epistemic theory, but don't feel quite ready to espouse them as my own. Berlin describes the real for social epistemic believers- "the real is located in a relationship that involves the dialectical interaction of the observer, the discourse community (social group) in which the oberserver is functioning, and the material conditions of existence" (692). This rings true for me. I think it is important that teachers and tutors help students to understand the interconnectedness of their writing, their lives and their surroundings. Often, students bring in writings for classes and treat the paper as though it were some foriegn object--something in their possession but not part of their life. I guess that sort of ties into the expressivist element too- I want the students to see themselves as writers- as conduits of power- and to understand how their writing fits into everything else that is going on right now.
I think it was after I read Gerald Graff's book about "teaching the conflicts" that I began to want a class full of young social revolutionaries. I think we have a responsibility to our students to teach them how powerful words can be. This idea needs some more mulling time--perhaps I'll come back to it. Writers of the world, unite!


Tuesday, January 28, 2003


I don’t think that I can accurately pigeonhole my teaching philosophies and assignments into any of the three theories with total conviction. I don’t know that I understand everything I feel I should know about each theory from only a few essays, but I will put out some thoughts on the subject for the blog ‘o the week.

I think that what I did last semester included some elements of all of the theories, perhaps most heavily the social epistemic. The writing assignments could be broken down as first more expressionist, with a heavy emphasis on “I” writing (although topics were assigned) and just getting ideas down on paper. I think this was valuable for the students who had not done much writing in the past—they got to ease into writing in a less threatening way than starting with formal assignments or research papers. Things moved in more of a cognitive direction with so much time being spent on many elements of the writing process, different writing strategies and individual conferencing about each student’s process and progress. I found it invaluable to sit down with each student and discuss his or her individual writing “issues” in a one-on-one situation. Although there was no real “composing aloud,” I think that the cognitive theories do include more than that—the composing aloud is more useful for a research tool. I think there is an underlying element of attempting to “diagnose” and help students through whatever problems they might be having in their individual processes. I think the semester ended up focusing on more conventional academic writing—the research paper!—and social epistemic really played a role in that, with students finding ways to situate their thoughts into a conventional essay format. I don’t think that the semester can be categorized strongly as one or the other, although the expressionist activities were definitely the least represented.

This semester I planned my own syllabus. I use OLOW and GR, but I had more time—and a semester’s worth of experience to draw on—to plan what activities I thought would be beneficial. I am starting again with some “I” writing, but the topics are assigned. I have not designated any truly self-designed activities except for perhaps my final short writing, which I intend to be truly personal—my students will be writing letters to themselves, which I plan to collect and mail to them in 2004. I will be doing the mandatory conferencing, which definitely has cognitive possibilities. Again, I want to mention that I really value sitting down with my students away from the classroom. I like getting to know them, what they like or don’t like, what in class works for them and what doesn’t work for them. I also plan to do—and have already done—paired or group writing activities. Although I won’t be able to do any “on the spot” analysis of the composing process, they will see firsthand how other students compose due to the inevitable oral nature of joint composition. I am really excited about the paired writing activities I have planned. I don’t think we can get away from social epistemic here at NDSU—it is an enormous part of our duty as instructors, in my opinion, to guide our students in the direction of acceptable academic writing. They need to know that writing in slang is not making good diction choices. They need to know how to write an intelligent sentence. Blah, blah, blah. I think that the social epistemic theories best prepare students for college writing, whereas expressionist and cognitive help students develop less threatening processes, in that they address ways to make writing more interesting to students via free expression or what might be causing blocks in the process (cognitive).

To end this ramble, I just want to say that I am very interested in the class response to Hariston’s essay. I thought she made some valid points (which I will refrain from discussing here), but a very controversial rant against politicizing first-year comp. I am eager to find out your opinions.

And p.s. to Sybil—I enjoyed looking at your list of expressionist teaching ideas, and I plan to try some of them out!


You ask some excellent questions, Josh,... and I have learned to like questions over answers. Someone famous said that, I think. Anyhow, I do have a response- There is no one way that will teach/inspire/encourage/enlighten ALL students. I just try to get MOST of them excited about writing or reading or whatever. The reason I say that is because the expressivist teachers in my life that have made my eyes bulge out of my head were not the teachers that everyone else liked.. even my friends/colleagues that were expressivist LIKE me. That's the crazy thing that I think Kevin kind of brings up... everyone leaks over into another theory once and awhile. PLUS, one expressivist may be different than another. I do believe there are extremes to each of these theories. Ok, I'll shut up now.


Since I am probably (no offense ladies) the youngest and "freshest" one to the subject at hand, have patience with my approach; hopefully, it will even rekindle memories for you readers as well.

I find myself in a rather unique position as I begin studying composition theory. I have not yet had the opportunity to teach a class, and I am nearly four years past my last experience in the epitome of composition studies, the freshman composition courses, leaving me in a position where I only vaguely recall particulars from instructional techniques early in my academic work and have no experience applying these theories. At this point, I must first consider a question that I have so far not run across in course readings: is there a universal theory that is accurate for all students? Could it possibly be that one student will react favorably to, say, an expressivist-oriented program and poorly to the others? Or is there a single theory applicable across the board because it is in fact an accurate description of the writing process? As an outsider of sorts, it seems to me that the cognitivists have a valid point when they claim that understanding the thought process that occurs around the finished product is important to the act of writing, yet doesn’t the ability to let your mind wander wherever it will, as the expressivists wish, also contribute to the scope of a writer’s ability? And, in consideration of the social epistemics, I must ask is it possible for any work of literature, of creation, to be completely independent from the existing cultural circumstances surrounding its birth?
Realizing that I lack the knowledge and/or experience to answer these questions, bear with me as I consider my own experiences in writing and literature classes. I have always been an adequate technical writer, able to avoid the grammatical pitfalls that often plague high school and college students alike. Where I gained this instinct I do not know, though I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that as a child my reading time outnumbered my TV time by more than ten to one. Throughout much of high school, I must surmise that what writing skills outside of grammar and the essay were introduced tended to be primarily expressivist in nature, though there was some effort in my senior year to introduce the social epistemic belief that all text is influenced by the cultural forces of its time. Upon entering college, I can safely say that my Composition 110 instructor was primarily expressivist in nature, including free-writing exercises in nearly every class period and emphasizing the concept of peer review and critique over the word of the instructor or the world of academia, with occasional slips backwards into grammatical review as necessitated by the skills (or lack thereof) of the class. I do not have a single recollection of any discussions that would have stemmed from the cognitiviest camp of composition theory, though one research project assigned in my Composition 120 class dealt with the relationship between a work and the historical period that oversaw its creation. As I progressed through the avenues of college life as an English major, the views of the social epistemics became more and more prevalent as I traipsed my way into the discipline of literary analysis. Locating a text within its historical period and identifying the effects of social and cultural conventions seemed to dominate the study of literature near the end of my undergraduate work, emphasizing the concept of immutable ties between text and time. However, high level writing workshops continued to emphasize the expressivist approach to a work as always in progress, with criticism from peers regarded as equal in regards to the input of the instructor. While free-writing itself was used far more sparsely, it was still present in every course focused on the writing process.
To conclude this brief summary of my education experience (which many of you may have already begun to forget yourselves), I feel that the expressivist camp dominated the writing aspect of my education, while the social epistemc camp appeared to shift itself over into every aspect of literary analysis and discourse thereof. But what does this mean to my burgeoning sense of a personal theory of composition studies? As I attempt to imagine myself teaching a class of freshman about writing, I can see validation in each of the three camps up to a point. For example, I believe that the expressivist theory of writing, of letting oneself go and watching your imagination and pen act independently of the conscious self, is an excellent tool for generating ideas, for becoming comfortable with the way an individual’s thoughts naturally flow, to see how the imagination reveals itself in the ordinary. At the same time, I cannot imagine how to go about discussing the product of the writing process, the text, whether it’s Shakespeare or the newest Big Tobacco apology, without acknowledging the factors that help shape it. Yet how do you teach awareness of cultural influences when it comes to work in progress, to the writings assigned to students? It seems to me that, based on my own experience, this purview is best left to those dealing more or less exclusively with the analysis of text rather than by those concerned with the creation of it, yet doesn’t one affect the other? Unfortunately, from what I understand of their theory I cannot reconcile the use of cognitivist methods in a classroom setting with my own experiences. While I feel that the work of this camp has, can and will produce information valuable to the understanding of human thought processes (obviously writing in particular), I don’t believe that attempting to teach this would be beneficial to the student. While it could be enlightening for a freshman to understand how an English professor or a best-selling novelist goes about writing, I feel that this process must be discovered individually in order to be of true value to a blossoming writer. Perhaps it’s simply my outdated adherence to the ancient postulate “Know Thyself”, but while I may feel this concept is vital to every living person, it is especially important to a writer, but in respect to understanding the inner workings of at least one human being rather than the writing process itself.
While this has been an extended ramble of what might just be a typical exposure to composition theory for an undergraduate student, I don’t believe I am prepared at this point to even begin blending these three theories into my own perspective of composition studies and teaching.


I need to pull my weight too, right? So here are the camps I borrow from.

First-year comp: I tend to draw on social-epistemic notions of rhetoric in fyc. I assume that most of the students don't want to be writers, so I approach the classes (110 and 120) as being about learning academic discourse, not learning how to write in some general way. That means teaching students the conventions of academic discourse (thesis-driven paper, claims and grounds, positioning (lots of positioning!), varieties of argument styles, etc. I haven't used much freewriting in fyc, and when I do ask students to write in class, I often ask them to respond to a specific question or prompt.

The Bartholomae-Elbow exchange is really interesting to me because one of things Elbow says a few times is that he is not opposed to teaching academic writing, he just thinks it should be taught in the upper level courses. I see myself as working the opposite direction: academic writing in 110 and 120; more expressivist in upper-level courses.

458/658 (Advanced Writers Workshop): Here is where I look like an expressivist. The readings I assign are primarily personal essays (I've used the collection _Imagining Home_), I do ask my students to do "intellectual work" in their essays, but I don't discuss thesis statements, claims or grounds, or ask for much research, etc. I run the class like a workshop: a 3-draft cycle with peer response each week. Students can continue drafting beyond the cycle if they wish to. I have used assigned topics, but I try to keep the topics really broad: home, literacy narratives.

Actually, that is just the first half of the course; the second half is a hypertext project. The last time I taught this project, I would say that used a "social-cognitivist" approach (a blend of social-epistemic and cognitivist approaches). I discovered over the 3 previous years of teaching the assignment that students sometimes feel lost when thrown into hypertext (or thrown on to the web). I tried to mitigate this sense of being lost by first asking students to read some hypertext and report specifically on the "generic conventions" of the hypertexts they read. Very social-epistemic of me. I also try to talk about genres as "tools," and computers as "tools," and that writing hypertext is like solving a problem: what tools should I use to convey my ideas/images/language on the web? Somewhat cognitivist of me: a problem-solving approach. The final product, however, might look more like an expressivist final product: typically creative hypertexts, little or no research other than the research into the genres and technologies. I guess I could say that I am pretty consistent in the kind of product that I ask for in this course, but I employ different approaches to "process" with each unit. I try to get groups to peer review each other's hypertext projects, but it simply doesn't work the same way with these unruly websites as it does with neat, contained, 5-10 page essays.

As someone who gets to teach across the whole curriculum, it seems to make sense that we try to do one or two things in a single course, and not be expressivists for 5 weeks, cognitivists for 5 weeks, and social-constructionists for 5 weeks. Whether or not starting with a social-epistemic approach and finishing with an expressivist approach is the best approach remains an open question. I am getting more and more expressivists in fyc, and a little more social-epistemic in my upper-level courses. I hadn't thought about this before now, but maybe I am trying to shorten up my range of pedagogical approaches, and simply shift emphasis one way or other depending on what course I am teaching.